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ann_hawes
12-19-2008, 08:44 AM
SIKESTON, Mo. - A Sikeston woman says she rushed her four-year-old son to the emergency room after her cousin's dog attacked him.
Now she wants the dog put down, but the cousin says that's not fair.
He's doing a lot better, but the boy's mother says she doesn't want to take the chance the dog will attack another child.
The dog's owners say their pet was provoked, and he was simply trying to defend himself.
Read the rest of the story...
http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=9550301&nav=menu51_2
Shells_k
12-19-2008, 03:06 PM
OMG. the mother ADMITS that her son provoked Blue. THE KIDS WERE HITTING THE DOG WITH STICKS FOR GODS SAKES. But yet she still feels Blue should be put to sleep because of this???!!!!!? That poor dog was defending itself. And I am sorry, I feel sorry for the child who was attacked, butit was provoked!! Its not like the boys were merely playing around the dog and it got too hyper and out of nowhere got aggressive and attacked someone.
Pisses me off, Id slap the crap out of that Mom if I could. Good lesson to teach your kid. Kill an innocent dog because it was protecting itself from your violent son.
W.T.F.
sarap
12-19-2008, 03:36 PM
Isn't the first rule of being a parent to pay attention to what your child is doing. If the mother had of been watching the kid the dog probubly wouldn't have been hit with sticks. I think the child should have to learn that if you hit and provoke an animal it will defend it's self. I also think the dog will have to have some new training, because it might associate children with agression now. Some kids need to be taught propper animal etiquette.
Furbilator
12-19-2008, 05:54 PM
Do the world a favour stupid mom, euthanize your kid and get yourself fixed. :mad: All serial killers started torturing animals before moving on to humans. This kid needs to have his head examined as he isn't so young that he doesn't understand the concept that you don't hit. The dog was defending itself from an attack (hit with sticks) and could not escape so it was not behaviourly oriented but defending itself via natural instinct. Heck, I would have chewed the kid's butt off myself if I had been the victim of his assault. The kid got what he deserved. I think the vast majority of dog attacks on kids are as a result of provocation by the kid.
CerbiesMom
12-19-2008, 06:07 PM
That poor dog. I want to know what's wrong with the dog owner, as the article mentions that the kid kept hitting the dog with a stick. If a kid hit my dog with a stick, that action would not be repeated. If you are a parent, you need to be in control of your child, and not let them play with strange dogs, and you certainly teach them not to beat animals with sticks.
cockermom93
12-19-2008, 06:52 PM
That poor dog. I want to know what's wrong with the dog owner, as the article mentions that the kid kept hitting the dog with a stick. If a kid hit my dog with a stick, that action would not be repeated. If you are a parent, you need to be in control of your child, and not let them play with strange dogs, and you certainly teach them not to beat animals with sticks.
I agree!!! If someone was near my dog even talking rudley to it I would be out there in a heart beat telling them off!! I lived in a neighborhood of kids lke this and they caught an ear full from me let me tell ya! I think this is why I dont like children! That mom does need to be smacked upside the head, and fixed!! :mad: :mad:
ann_hawes
12-19-2008, 11:02 PM
Although no one wants to hear of a child being bitten, it baffles me to find the dog hauled off with it's life in jeopardy and the news writer says absolutely nothing about :
1) the dog being chained
2) the "responsible" person leaving young children unsupervised with the dog
At least they mentioned that the child was hitting the dog with sticks. This dog owner needs an education. The dog is paying the penalty for her ignorance.
abi_n_beau88
12-19-2008, 11:04 PM
I'm sorry but this really p*ss*s me off!! I was raised that when ANYONE, my siblings, my family ANYONE, teased our animals they were disciplined or asked to leave!!
We had a Husky/Malamute mix when I was little, he was my little brother and my horse, and my baby sister's eating companion (both not all that great I know, but we were just little.) But once when my uncle came over-he only had/has little dogs-he decided that it would be funny to jump at Chico and bark at him loudly trying to get a rise out of him...my Dad kicked him out of the house and told him to not come back until he was asked back! That is just how I was raised!
I have even explained it OVER AND OVER to my cousins about their 3 little kids and their their 2 old cats, I think I have finally gotten into their heads!LOL
IMO...the mother should be fined/given community service, they should also have a class type that adults that are seen, or found to be, animal aggressive-or those who's kids are-have to go to, like a anger management type class. Also any kids that have been caught doing this sort of stuff should have to go to a child appropriate class, and this sort of stuff SHOULD be taught in schools-I mean they teach REALLY young kids sex-ed...but they are not anti-animal cruelty class, WTH!
But NO this dog should NOT be murdered, I don't think he should even be put on the "dangerous dog" list!
I just get REALLY REALLY p*ss*d about this kind of crap!! So sorry about rant!LOL
ann_hawes
12-19-2008, 11:32 PM
Newspapers have played a huge role in breed specific legislation. Reports are so biased that they make dogs seem like monsters, when what they really are is creatures who depend on us.
MOST, if not all dog bites could and should be prevented, if people would only use their heads.
Shells_k
12-20-2008, 01:46 AM
If someone on here is good with this stuff, is there a way we can start an internet petition, and who do you think we would submit it to?
This really fries me that this poor dog's life is at risk because of this.
CerbiesMom
12-20-2008, 01:53 PM
that's a good idea shells, I hope somebody knows how to go about that.
2dogscrzy4ball
12-20-2008, 09:37 PM
Why was this 8 month old puppy/dog chained up to a dog house anyway? I think it just stresses them out more. It's gonna be hard to keep him muzzled all the time (while he's outside). I hope someone else gets the dog that won't chain him up!! I hope the boy learned his lesson and doesn't do it again and I hope the mother keeps a better watch on her son.:mad:
Jr_K9_Expert
12-20-2008, 10:33 PM
Wow really, can people get any dumber? No surprise that the media just says whats conveniant for them :mad:
Yes we could start a petition, but it would take many signitures. If anyone would like to start one here are some sites that might help, the first of which I think is the most reliable:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/
http://www.ipetitions.com/start-petition/
(Tip)
http://www.gopetition.com/howtowriteapetition.php
What do you guys say?
sandyb
12-21-2008, 04:08 AM
A couple of years ago I was out walking my 2 goldies when a small boy asked if he could pat them. He patted and cuddled them then a few minutes later, while I was still chatting to his mum, he came back with a rubber mallet and hit Amber hard on her back before we could stop him. Luckily he hit a very placid dog, who looked more shocked than hurt, but what if she had bitten him in fright? Would they have expected me to have her put to sleep even though the boy was in the wrong? It seems to me that often the one who can't speak in it's own defence is the one to suffer the consequences.
abi_n_beau88
12-23-2008, 04:43 PM
A couple of years ago I was out walking my 2 goldies when a small boy asked if he could pat them. He patted and cuddled them then a few minutes later, while I was still chatting to his mum, he came back with a rubber mallet and hit Amber hard on her back before we could stop him. Luckily he hit a very placid dog, who looked more shocked than hurt, but what if she had bitten him in fright? Would they have expected me to have her put to sleep even though the boy was in the wrong? It seems to me that often the one who can't speak in it's own defense is the one to suffer the consequences.
Yes this is something that I am always worried about when I have my dogs out, as none of them have really been around babies/little kids and Bonni and Beau are older. I normally just don't allow anyone to pet them, unless I am holding them in my arms or they are in something like a shopping cart or on a table. I'm not someone who take it lightly when you mistreat my, or anyone's animals, (as can be seen in my first post on this subject!lol) so I most often keep ME away from kids who would want to pet them then the dog it's self!LOL
My mom's puppy is a different situation, for he LOVES anyone that is close to him, and he TOTALLY loves little kids! So I just pick him up and let him pet him, and then keep holding him until they are gone. But all three of our dogs are smallish(20 to 25 lbs) so its is IMO it is a little easier then with your Goldies!
Working at 2 different pet stores, and volunteering in one other one, I have see to many kids who aren't told/trained by their parents...so really don't trust them! I have had a boy, 5-8 years old(so old enough IMO to know better,) run up behind a 120+lbs dog, my friend's English Mastiff that I was cuddling with, and yell a big "BOO" at us, it was all I could do to keep Sasha still!! She is a rescue and at 2 almost 3 is terrified of EVERYTHING she doesn't know, thus the reason she is at their specialty pet store for some instructive socialization...WE had to tell the boy to NEVER do anything like that again! His mom just stood buy not saying anything about it!! So Ive got to say, I just don't understand how parents now a days don't teach their kids what I was taught even 20 years ago!!
elsasmom
12-23-2008, 05:44 PM
A couple of years ago I was out walking my 2 goldies when a small boy asked if he could pat them. He patted and cuddled them then a few minutes later, while I was still chatting to his mum, he came back with a rubber mallet and hit Amber hard on her back before we could stop him. Luckily he hit a very placid dog, who looked more shocked than hurt, but what if she had bitten him in fright? Would they have expected me to have her put to sleep even though the boy was in the wrong? It seems to me that often the one who can't speak in it's own defence is the one to suffer the consequences.
When my dog Elsa and I were at the nursing home a mother with a toddler asked if he could pet her. I said sure. The toddler grabbed my sweet girl by the forehead and pinched her hard while screaming in her ear. :eek: : As the mother pried his hands loose, she chuckled, "That's why our dog hates him; our dog stays under the bed whenever my son is awake". :confused:
IS SHE CRAZY? Elsa squealed and then licked the little varmint. I, on the other hand, wanted to bite him myself. The child wasn't even told that his behavior was wrong. She's lucky Elsa is so tolerant. I was much less courteous than my dog about this one.
abi_n_beau88
12-23-2008, 06:22 PM
Elsa's mom....that is the true reason that I really dont like being around kids, I'm not allowed to discipline them my self!!LOL
I mean come on! Would YOU, or would you allow your kid, to act aggressive to this dog???
http://www.iryshemastiffs.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_dogs10.jpg
:eek:
Or this one of her?? hehe...
http://www.iryshemastiffs.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_dogs12.jpg
HEHE....yes that is "My Sashie" (One of my friend's female English Mastiff) :D
elsasmom
12-23-2008, 07:49 PM
abi_n,
All I want to do to that mastiff beauty is kiss her on those sloppery dog lips!
WHAT A DOLL
abi_n_beau88
12-23-2008, 11:59 PM
HEHE!!! Else's Mom...I know!!! She give great kisses too!!:) Both her and her "sister" Cali....
Here is one of the two girls together:
http://www.iryshemastiffs.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_dogs2.jpg
and one of just Cali:
http://www.iryshemastiffs.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_dogs5.jpg
(Their Mommy, my friend took all of these with their record breaking snow fall in Spokane, Wa!!:))
cockermom93
12-24-2008, 03:22 AM
Wow they are adorable!! I would not stand for my child to be anything but calm and nice around any dog or animal for that matter! My nephew is one of those hit/throw/kick type kids and I just want to bust his little butt!! I saw a kid chasing geese once and throwing sticks and kicking at them and I was near his mother and I just went for it and yelled at him! LOL She acted embarrased and left quickly but never corrected her child herself! This is why I love dogs! :D
elsasmom
12-30-2008, 07:37 PM
When I take my Elsa to my sister's and friends houses, all children are taught from the start how to treat animals with gentleness and kindness. I grew up in a family that didn't tolerate the smallest unkindness to animals and I'm glad we learned young.
When I was about 10, I bent down to pet the neighbors' cocker spaniel before I saw she had a bone. I was bitten across the bridge of my nose. The neighbor's offered to pay the doctor's bill for stitches and I was cautioned by my parents to be more careful when approaching a dog. My mom actually made me make friends with the dog again so I wouldn't be afraid of dogs and so I understood that the dog was only defending her bone. We certainly didn't want any action against the dog who lived a long life.:)
Lola_Joy
12-31-2008, 07:26 PM
Many people think Im nuts to love dogs. When, I was 3 I was bitten by a Siberen Husky, and almost lost my eye. It also damaged my tooth, so as a result it didn't come in untill i was about 10, and it also grew in croked. I have scars below my eye, side of my mouth and above my mouth. We also had a Siberen Husky at the time, and since they looked alike everyone thought I would not take well to the dog, but I was in no way emotionally damged. I in no way blame the dog ethier, as I was tresspassing in the dogs territory. And, yet I love dogs, ecp. Siberens!