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Keeper
02-07-2009, 09:48 PM
I just rescued a pit youngster. She is about 8 months and scheduled to be fixed in a week. My other four dogs like her well enough, but she has been totally isolated before coming to my home.
My main issue that I don't know how to work with is this. We have playtime with balls and frizbee's. She growls when she plays. She will drop her own ball to go after the ball I tossed for another dog. That dog stops and lets her have it. Same thing with frisbee's. She is trying to play, but doesn't know the boundaries and I'm not sure how to interfere.
I could let my dogs correct her, if she gets out of line. They don't seem to know how to handle it either.
She has many issues with the outside world, noises scare her, adults frighten her, and with children, she wants as far away from them as possible.
This is going to be quite the challange. She has no socilaization.
So basically how do I get her to be more respectful during play. She gets along best with Cooper, another pitbull. But he loves his frizbee and the other dogs respect that - she doesn't.
Any ideas? I named her Emma.

Momto3
02-07-2009, 10:13 PM
I know next to nothing about Pits but when I rescued a little abused chocolate cocker spaniel I was told to let them work it out for themselves. I already had two elders so it was a big change. They all got along at the rescue but when you bring them home and they all have the same home turf and the same hooman to share...well, the rules change. It took me months to get Maxwell to interact with me as he stayed in a corner and would not come out except to eat. He was terrified of grass! I spent a huge amount of time getting that little guy to be mine and I got a hugely territorial pooch out of it! Within only a few months he turned out totally alpha to the point of attacking my elderly female. She was not open to this younger one dropping her status so she fought back. The last time they fought blood was prevalent but Mendi ceded her position and all was well afterwards. I don't ever want to go thru that again. My youngest is alpha but he's got a heart of gold. He cleans the older newbies coming in and he herds them when needed.

BetterDog4U
02-07-2009, 11:03 PM
This might get a little long so bare with me.

You have several issues here, not just one.

First of all I am not a professional trainer, but I have worked with a lot of dogs in the past 20 years or so.

Having JUST rescued the pitt, combined with the fact that she is less than a year old, I'd like to think that this is JUST a temporary problem that a little training will be able to cure.

You MUST set rules and boundries RIGHT AWAY. If she has not been tought basic obedience commands you will need to do these first before you try to introduce a structured play session with other dogs. Thats not to say she can't romp around with them, after all, that part of the socializing process.

Once she knows "sit", "stay", "come", "no", and maybe also "leave it" the best way to keep her from chasing after all of the other dog's toys is to put her on a leash and make her sit and stay when its not it's turn. The command "'her name' - Sit-Stay" should do it. With Neka, i use "Neka - Leave it" ... and she will walk away from it about 95% of the time.

When training ANY behaiviour it is critical that you work "one-on-one" until they understand. When working with this ball issue, you can throw one ball, and when she has it in her mouth, throw a second and tell her "no" or "leave it".

Once your pitt understands that you are telling her not chase all toys, she should be able to play with the other dogs.

As for the fear issues, just go slow and try to introduce her to them from a distance ... then move a little closer as she becomes more secure. Training and giving rewards and verbal praise will help her with her self esteme.

Keeper
02-14-2009, 09:41 PM
This might get a little long so bare with me.

You have several issues here, not just one.

First of all I am not a professional trainer, but I have worked with a lot of dogs in the past 20 years or so.

Having JUST rescued the pitt, combined with the fact that she is less than a year old, I'd like to think that this is JUST a temporary problem that a little training will be able to cure.

You MUST set rules and boundries RIGHT AWAY. If she has not been tought basic obedience commands you will need to do these first before you try to introduce a structured play session with other dogs. Thats not to say she can't romp around with them, after all, that part of the socializing process.

Once she knows "sit", "stay", "come", "no", and maybe also "leave it" the best way to keep her from chasing after all of the other dog's toys is to put her on a leash and make her sit and stay when its not it's turn. The command "'her name' - Sit-Stay" should do it. With Neka, i use "Neka - Leave it" ... and she will walk away from it about 95% of the time.

When training ANY behaiviour it is critical that you work "one-on-one" until they understand. When working with this ball issue, you can throw one ball, and when she has it in her mouth, throw a second and tell her "no" or "leave it".

Once your pitt understands that you are telling her not chase all toys, she should be able to play with the other dogs.

As for the fear issues, just go slow and try to introduce her to them from a distance ... then move a little closer as she becomes more secure. Training and giving rewards and verbal praise will help her with her self esteme.
I knew you would have some good ideas, I agree with everything you suggested. Come seems to be the most challanging. Apparently she was punished for coming at one point.
She gets a little more secure everyday, but I have not been working with her solo, like I should.
As for letting them work it out, won't happen. My other dogs just won't play with her, or me, with her around. Cooper leaves the room and hides in the bedroom. Yet he will run around with her outside.
I curse myself for taking this on when everything was going so well for our pack; but I can't bring myself to turn my back on a sweet pit in need. We'll make this work. Now my problem is my husband. He is sooo inconsistent, but refuses to be trained.:mad:
Thanks so much for your input.