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sailsanf3
02-22-2007, 04:51 PM
I'm new to the world of K9 Mania so bear with me. First I'll introduce myself. My name is Diane. I have four children, two left at home. We share our home with two goofy cats, a 8 week old Golden Retriever and a 1 1/2 year old Yellow Lab. Each one of our pets have different personalities. Our Siamese is stuck up and aloof, while the kitten Geo is a goofball. Our Lab Buddy is possessive of me to the point of having bitten someone. Our puppy Saphira (named after the dragon in Eragon) is a hand full. She’s 8wks old and basically fully house trained. We call her the piranha because she is all teeth. I went to the goodwill and bought 12 stuffed animals for her to take out her puppy hood on. She sleeps with us in our bed on my pillow. I bought another one just so I'd have something to sleep on. She sleeps all through the night now but we still have her sleep with us until we feel totally safe that she'll let us know if she wakes up. Today she barked at the French doors because she needed to go out and go potty. (1st time) I'm so proud of her. I would really like to talk with other dog parents of Labs of Guldens. Though talking to any pet owner helps with ideas and techniques. Have a vibrant day Diane

Carol
02-22-2007, 07:49 PM
Golden Retrievers and Labs are the easiest dogs to train so hope both of yours have obedience training. Crate training is also a really good idea for these dogs so they have a quiet place to go when they are overstimulated or just need to get away.
Biting is never an option so they need to be obedient when they get this urge so you can correct the behaviour. Puppies learn to not chew or bite people by being directed to "allowed" items for chewing, preferably hard rubber toys that do not resemble our shoes or belongings. Also they can swallow a lot of things as puppies so toys should be unable to be swallowed.
My sister had a Golden and I had a Lab and they were the best behaved dogs ever and so much fun. But they were both very well trained as puppies and were reinforced all the time through us being consistent with them. This was a necessity because our dogs weighed more than we did. LOL Labs tend to pull on a leash so mine had a head halter.Worked from Day 1.
Good Luck
Hope you can post photos of your lovely furbabies.

hevip
02-23-2007, 07:38 AM
my gsd used to bite my hand , more so when we were playing but it still needed to be stopped before it got out of hand, so each time her teeth came in contact with my hand i would let out a loud yelp even if it did not hurt at all and it made her back off very quickly as the noise distracted her from what she was doing and was also a way of letting her know its not acceptable then i would give her hard chew toy, i never slapped her nose as i firmly belive that violence breeds violence and even though you may think it is ok to do so what we teach our puppys can cause huge problems as they grow. she is now 9 months old and keeps her teeth to herself and is becoming a very loving and obedient girl.

Carol
02-23-2007, 12:04 PM
Beautiful GSD and your consistency paid off while she shed her baby teeth and got the adult ones.
It is really a waste of a beautiful dog to not take advantage of their intelligence with good training.
Your dog is a good example.

KatzNK9
02-23-2007, 01:14 PM
I'm the proud owner of a soon to be 11 month old Golden Retriever who is naturally very dominant. I got him at 6-1/2 weeks of age & had a tough time getting him to quit biting (I still fight it occasionally ... but not often) & have found the method that works best for me is putting a toy in his mouth when he starts & praising him for chewing on the toy.

If he persists, I ask him in a stern voice, "No biting! Do you want to go to the kitchen?" (where I can block him from getting out) ... he HATES being locked in there so this works about 90% of the time. If he still persists, he gets about a 5 to 10 minute "exile" to the kitchen. Settles him down every time. (BTW, when he was much younger, a 2 to 3 minute "exile" worked just as well).

Fast approaching 11 months, he now gets "kitchen exile" about once every 2 weeks. Last month it was every week. The month before, every other day. So, persistence has paid off in my sometimes bratty Golden's case.

Carol
02-23-2007, 01:34 PM
It sure makes the pup a more fun animal to be around doesn't it? Sure it takes time for the pup to mature but just like a little toddler who has to learn not to bite, or put everything in its mouth so does a pup.
Consistent training pays off BIG TIME.
Nothing worthwhile happens overnight.

sailsanf3
02-23-2007, 08:09 PM
All the input has helped. It's funny because I don't remember my lab Buddy chewing on us or anything else. My family says I have selective memory sindrome. I've been working with telling Saphira no and stopping her each time she get too excited and uses her teeth. She seems to be getting the idea. I can hold her and she'll lick me in the face instead of just biting me. That's going to be nice at night when she wakes up and thinks she needs to play. She's given me a couple of bloody noses. Not cool at 2am.

Ok here goes with the second phase; She is digging. It's amazing how much dirt she can move in under a minute. I know I've got to stop her now while she's little and before Buddy gets the idea planted in his head. I've heard that if you put their poop in the hole it will stop them from digging in that spot. I'm thinking of trying that though it sounds kind of sick. My husband wants to get a shock collar and shock her when we catch her diggin but I'm not sure if that will work. Help!!

And one last questions; When should a puppy be spayed? I've read that they will do it at 8 weeks old but that seems a bit too young. I asked my vet and he said they do it for Goldens (large breeds) usually around nine months. Now that seems too old for me. So when is that magical window when puppys should get spayed?

hevip
02-24-2007, 02:29 PM
my pup is 9 months old she has just finished her first season and she is going to be spayed in a months time, i asked my vet regarding age and his personal opinon is let them have one season as he said it helps them mature but i have heard other vets say not to let them have a season and others say it does not really matter, but as i have been using my vet now for some years and he has never steered me wrong i have taken his advice letting her have one season and she will be spayed after. i found that when i looked on websites etc about this subject there did not seem to be one golden rule for age etc so i would personley take the advice of your vet. as for the digging i have heard about putting there poop in the hole can stop it as well so try that first , as for the shock collar i agree with you it sounds a bit harsh ,some people in the uk use them to stop there dog from barking and that to me is just cruel its no different then chopping of a persons tongue to stop them talking and if you did that to a person you would be in trouble but it appears ok for a dog. so try poop in the hole .

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Carol
02-27-2007, 04:35 PM
We had a discussion on another website.
The veterinary college in Guelph Ontario has a study on their website showing 3 groups:
1 spayed at 8 weeks approx
1 spayed at 6 months (before 1st heat)
1 unspayed
They kept track of growth and found that those spayed earliest, actually grew a little more.
Other things discovered are all positive.
If pup is right health and weight and it is safe to do so, I think the earlier the better. Healthwise, they seem to do okay and females are protected almost 98% against mammary tumours and males are protected against testicular cancer if neutered before 6 months.
I notice they have lots of USA info on this subject too.
Breeders will soon start neutering before delivery of pups if they are on a non breeding contract.
Shelters are starting to neuter all dogs in their care before adopting them out.
I guess it is whatever the owner is comfortable with in tandem with the vet's opinion.