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tizzik
04-11-2007, 11:23 PM
HI new on the system, just wondering apart from plants, raisins and chocolate is there anything else i shouldnt feed my bichon/maltese pup? eg. apples, crackers.etc.b

crazydays
04-11-2007, 11:58 PM
Hi-welcome
I just found out that grapes are also poisonous to dogs. One or two won't hurt but if the dog eats a vine of them, it can cause hemolytic anemia

very_vizsla
04-12-2007, 01:42 AM
hi there!
if you go to www.snopes.com you will get the low down on grapes. btw, dark chocolate is deadly, too.

Carol
04-12-2007, 03:38 PM
Thankfully, there is lots of info available now using google.
I avoid onions but still put garlic in the food I cook for my two dogs.
As far as I can see, the most toxic thing for dogs is some commercially made dog foods out there.
Read labels and look up the ingredients.
www.dogfoodproject.com

ilovemypets
04-13-2007, 04:11 AM
i agree with carol, commercial dog food is very toxic and poisonous to your dog! :eek: you can read about commercial food here:
The Truth (http://shout.to/thetruth)
there are so many things in commercial food that it just makes me sick, to think it is being done and that people aren't aware of it...
read the articles at the link i just posted and you'll be amazed just as i was!

The best thing for our pets is natural pet food... there are quite a few out there from what i am finding out, however i use ameri-pet food, and it works pretty well for my pets...
here is the link:
Healthy All Natural Pet Food (http://ilovemypets.ameri-petonline.com)
:)

ilovemypets
04-15-2007, 04:50 AM
Uuummm, I dunno what you are talking or referring to or about...
The Ameri-Pet Food is made to order...:p
It is made every weekend and sent out on Mondays...
it is made fresh for delivery to who ever orders it thru the previous week...
So in other words.. if it was monday and i placed an order, my food would not be made until the weekend, and then it would be shipped on Monday, So, if i ordered it on monday, my order would not be shipped until the next monday...
This food is not commercially produced in any way at all!:eek:
It is made as it is ordered (on the weekends that is)
So how is this commercial????
Why would you assume such a thing????
The site has NO hint what so ever of commercial methods!:mad:

puppywalker
01-16-2008, 10:13 PM
Common Foods That Are Harmful Or Even Fatal to Dogs

1..Avocados (fruit, pip, and plant) are toxic to dogs. They can cause difficulty breathing; fluid accumulation in the chest, abdomen and heart; or pancreatitis.

2..Onions destroy red blood cells and can cause anemia, weakness, and breathing difficulty. Even small amounts can cause cumulative damage over time. This includes onions or chives - raw, powdered, dehydrated, or cooked.

3..Garlic in large amounts cause the same problems as onions.

4..Grapes and raisins can cause kidney failure in dogs. As little as a single serving of raisins can kill him. If the dog doesn't eat enough at one time to be fatal, he can be severely damaged by eating just a few grapes or raisins regularly.

5..Tomatoes can cause tremors and heart arrhythmias. Tomato plants and the most toxic, but tomatoes themselves are also unsafe. (All parts of the plant except the tomato itself are also poisonous to humans.

6..Nutmeg can cause tremors, seizures and death.

7..Caffeine (from coffee, coffee grounds, tea, or tea bags) stimulates the central nervous and cardiac systems, and can cause vomiting, restlessness, heart palpitations, and even death within hours.

8..Xylitol Diet products containing the sweetener can cause a sudden drop in blood sugar, resulting in depression, loss of coordination and seizures. Unless treatment is given quickly, the dog could die.

9..Macadamia nuts can cause weakness, muscle tremor and paralysis. These symptoms are usually temporary.

10...Walnuts are poisonous to dogs, a type of fungus common to walnuts (especially wet deadfall walnuts) will cause severe episodes of seizuring.

11...Chocolate can cause seizures, coma and death. Baker’s chocolate is the most dangerous. The darker the chocolate, the more dangerous it is. But any chocolate, in large enough amounts, can kill a dog. An ounce of chocolate can poison a 30-pound dog, and many dogs will happily consume more than this. The symptoms may not show up for several hours (and so might make you think all is well), with death following within twenty-four hours. A dog can consume milk chocolate and appear to be fine because it is not as concentrated, but it is still dangerous.

12...Apple seeds, cherry pips, peach pips, pear pips, plum pips, peaches and apricot pips contain cyanide, which is poisonous.

13...Salt in high amounts can cause kidney problems. Also, large breeds of dogs that eat salty food may then drink too much water and develop bloat, which is fatal unless emergency treatment is given very quickly.

14... Fat or fried foods can cause pancreatitis.
Ham and bacon contain too much fat and too much salt, and can cause pancreatitis. Also, large breeds of dogs that eat salty food may drink too much water and develop a life-threatening condition called bloat. This is where the stomach fills up with gas and within several hours may twist, causing death.

15...Raw liver or too much cooked liver (three servings a week) can lead to vitamin A toxicity. This can cause deformed bones, excessive bone growth on the elbows and spine, weight loss, and anorexia. Check the label of your canned dog food to be sure that it does not contain liver if you are giving your dog liver also.

16...Wild mushrooms can cause abdominal pain, drooling, liver damage, kidney damage, vomiting, diarrhea, convulsions, coma, or death.

17...Raw egg whites contain a protein called avidin, which can deplete your dog of biotin, one of the B vitamins. Biotin is essential to your dog’s growth and coat health. The lack of it can cause hair loss, weakness, growth retardation, or skeleton deformity. Raw egg yolks contain enough biotin to prevent the deficiency, so this is not a problem with raw whole eggs. Raw egg yolks could contain salmonella, so you should get your eggs from a reliable source or cook the eggs.

18...Grains should not be given in large amounts or make up a large part of a dog’s diet, but rice is generally safe in small amounts.

19...Cooked bones can splinter and tear a dog’s internal organs.

20...Some Vegetables are undigestable (green beans, sweetcorn, lettuce, potatoes or yams) whole or in large pieces,Potato peels and green potatoes are dangerous.

21...Dairy products are high in fat, which can cause pancreatitis, gas and diarrhea. A small amount of non-fat, plain yogurt is usually safe.

22...Pennies/Coins made from the 1980s todate contain zinc, which can cause kidney failure and damage to red blood cells. A dog that consumes even one penny can become quite sick, or even die, if the penny is not removed.

buggis
01-17-2008, 12:44 AM
Puppywalker: That is an awesome list! Thank you so much for sharing that with everyone!

CerbiesMom
01-17-2008, 04:22 AM
Really? Avocados? There's a brand of dog and cat food called avoderm that has avocados in it. That's really scary.

LoveMyLabs
01-17-2008, 07:44 AM
I disagree with the 1oz per 30 lb dog theory. Mine, unfotunately, have eaten WAY more than one oz at any given time and have never had any adverse side affects. One of ours ate a box of chocolate covered donuts and didn't even get diarhea. Another ate a candy cane full of m&m's, again, no side affects. Personally, I think it depends on the dog, what it can handle AND how big it is.

Our female swallowed a penny once as a pup and the side of her face was swollen with little bumps. Took her to the vet, got a cortizone shot and put an ice pack to reduce the swelling and she was fine. She passed the penny and her bum was a little swollen so I got to put an ice pack on her butt...:eek: Not the happiest day of either of our lives...but she is fine.

Walnuts....heh. When our two had to stay outside, underneath a walnut tree, that's all that Gunner would do - eat walnuts. Old, wet, new, whatever. The worst he ever did was poop black walnuts. We relocated him closer to the garage and didn't have to worry about the nuts anymore.

Either our dogs have very strong stomachs and immune systems or they don't fit the norm for reactions to certain items.


As for commercial dog food. You could say the same thing about people food being toxic for us. Mine have lived off commercial food for years and have a very healthy body, nice coat and no problems except for the occasional bout of itchy/flaky skin (once due to shampoo not being completely washed out, once to a flea problem and another time an allergy to lamb in a different food we gave).

JMO

puppywalker
01-17-2008, 08:24 AM
I do suppose you are right,some dogs like us can tolurate different foods better than others.
I remember years ago my German shepherd ate a selection box,paper ,box,chocolate the lot,at the time i thought nothing of it,but 24hrs later he had a major seizure,foaming at the mouth and went ridged,phoned the vet straight away and told him about what was happening,and straight away he asked did you dog have chocolate,i said no not today,but he stole some yesterday and he said that was most definately the cause of the seizure and that Duke was still lucky to be here.He never had the chance to get chocolate again and lived to the ripe old age of 12.

It was after that that he gave me this list which has been on my fridge door since,as half of the things on it i would have said would be ok,but have never again put to the test.LOL

dobesgalore
01-17-2008, 11:33 AM
i agree with carol, commercial dog food is very toxic and poisonous to your dog! :eek: you can read about commercial food here:
The Truth (http://shout.to/thetruth)
there are so many things in commercial food that it just makes me sick, to think it is being done and that people aren't aware of it...
read the articles at the link i just posted and you'll be amazed just as i was!

The best thing for our pets is natural pet food... there are quite a few out there from what i am finding out, however i use ameri-pet food, and it works pretty well for my pets...
here is the link:
Healthy All Natural Pet Food (http://ilovemypets.ameri-petonline.com)
:)

Yep, the commercial brand don't do much for me. I am presently feeding Solid Gold, but I am thinking about maybe switching to Caninae because they have a couple of good formulas in 40lb bags.

LabpupsUK
01-17-2008, 11:56 AM
Scary list and good to know although I agree it also depends on a dogs tolerance.

Murphy my pup would not stop eating the plums, pears and apples in my garden and has been fine, dread to think how many pips/stones that would amount to.

Although I have also come to the conclusion that Labradors have steel lined stomachs, some of the things my boys have eaten, I hate to think about it.

k9mania
01-17-2008, 05:54 PM
Black Walnuts are extremely poisonous to dogs. The shell gets a fungus when they fall off the tree. Here in the valley you must be very careful. I believe that it depends on the tolerance of the dog but one should not knowingly continue to feed foods that may eventually effect the organs. My dogs love chocolate shakes and their turkey meatloaf has a bit of salsa for flavor for me. But I am very careful about onions, grapes, and chocolate and plants. Again though it does depend on the constitution of the dog.

LoveMyLabs
01-17-2008, 09:42 PM
Of course we wouldn't give them something poisonous on purpose. That would constitute cruelty to animals! :eek:
The walnuts were EVERYWHERE in the yard, we tried picking them up, throwing them out of the yard, boxing them up, they just kept on falling. That's why we moved him (and Tira) after 2 or 3 days.

The chocolate is always what they grab off the counter when we leave them out (when we go across the street for something). Since then we leave everything above counter level. Yes, above. Cause they can all reach the counter.

Jr_K9_Expert
01-18-2008, 12:46 AM
Chocolate: Toxic component is theobromine, natural stimulant in cocoa bean that causes a dog to urinate frequently and effects the nervous system as well as the heart.

Macademia Nuts:Toxic component still needs further researching but eating them causes inablilty to stand, depression, vomiting, muscle tremors, as well as elevated heart rate.

Onions:Contains Disulphides which affects the dogs red blood cells and causes then to burst, which in turns leads to oxygen deficiency. Any sort of onions can be harmful to dogs: in table scraps, raw cooked, and dehydrated.

Fruit pits/seeds: Seeds or Pits of plums, peaches, pears, apples apricots and cherry pits all are not only toxic but also choke hazards. They contain cacogenic which can poison a dog and cause respiratory problems.

Avocados: Toxic element is persin and this damages tissues like the heart and lungs. Plus they are high in fat and can cause digestive problems.

Baby food: Some baby food has onion powder.

Sugarless Candy: Contains artificial sweetener xylitol which can cause liver damage.

Grapes and Raisins: Toxic unknown, hypothesis suggest that iron content causes kidney failure.

This info i didn't get from one source only, but i focused on the most commonly said foods that are toxic. Btw Puppywalker, you post looked alot like one of the things i saw, i think it was in ASPCA website. I'm curious as to where you got it though, i may be wrong.

And from the list I was just a little curious about the tomato, i didn't find that too often in research, and then why would people suggest give tomato juice to bitches to ameliorate lawn burns? Could it be that the tomato itself isn't bad, but the seeds inside? idk. Also i found #20 on your list a little humorous, actually carnivores/omniovors lact the ability to digest any plant. Because they contain cellulose, which we can't break down, e. coli in the digestive tract does that for us. Lastly the macadamia nut's affects aren't only temporary. Like you said it does cause paralysis but if taken if higher quanities it paralysizes the heart, leading to death.

puppywalker
01-18-2008, 10:06 AM
Chocolate: Toxic component is theobromine, natural stimulant in cocoa bean that causes a dog to urinate frequently and effects the nervous system as well as the heart.

Macademia Nuts:Toxic component still needs further researching but eating them causes inablilty to stand, depression, vomiting, muscle tremors, as well as elevated heart rate.

Onions:Contains Disulphides which affects the dogs red blood cells and causes then to burst, which in turns leads to oxygen deficiency. Any sort of onions can be harmful to dogs: in table scraps, raw cooked, and dehydrated.

Fruit pits/seeds: Seeds or Pits of plums, peaches, pears, apples apricots and cherry pits all are not only toxic but also choke hazards. They contain cacogenic which can poison a dog and cause respiratory problems.

Avocados: Toxic element is persin and this damages tissues like the heart and lungs. Plus they are high in fat and can cause digestive problems.

Baby food: Some baby food has onion powder.

Sugarless Candy: Contains artificial sweetener xylitol which can cause liver damage.

Grapes and Raisins: Toxic unknown, hypothesis suggest that iron content causes kidney failure.

This info i didn't get from one source only, but i focused on the most commonly said foods that are toxic. Btw Puppywalker, you post looked alot like one of the things i saw, i think it was in ASPCA website. I'm curious as to where you got it though, i may be wrong.

And from the list I was just a little curious about the tomato, i didn't find that too often in research, and then why would people suggest give tomato juice to bitches to ameliorate lawn burns? Could it be that the tomato itself isn't bad, but the seeds inside? idk. Also i found #20 on your list a little humorous, actually carnivores/omniovors lact the ability to digest any plant. Because they contain cellulose, which we can't break down, e. coli in the digestive tract does that for us. Lastly the macadamia nut's affects aren't only temporary. Like you said it does cause paralysis but if taken if higher quanities it paralysizes the heart, leading to death.

Hi:) I got the list from my vet,many years ago as i said on my post,after an insident with one of my dogs.
I am by no means an expert,but because i had this list i thought i would post it,sorry if you thought some of info was missleading,or out of date.
I always say if in doubt check with a vet.:)